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Hi Hilltop,

My DD has done both a private and a funded foundation (acting). Some pros and cons. Private - having to fund every single penny for them can be tough. It's not just the course tuition and accommodation costs, it's the money to live on not just groceries but any socialising, any 'it's so and so birthday and we're getting her this and going there. It's any kit they need. any travel home etc. On top of this they are still going to be auditioning so you also have audition costs to take into account. Whether student can work is very dependant on the contact hours. Pros were a very small class 20 students total divided into 2.

Funded took away that financial pressure, not completely because we still had to pay accommodation costs as maintenance loan not enough to cover. Cons were it was a lot bigger class, double I think of the private foundation. It uses up the gift year of a degree so there is no room for error afterwards. It also means owing more but that doesn't really concern me because you pay back on what you earn not what you owe.

Overall I'd say DD preferred her private foundation, we found the funded one a lot easier on our finances. My advice is to ask both questions, where do they live, what's the contact hours and how are they divided between dancing/singing/acting. how many are in a class etc.
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Scotbean wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:15 pm Hi
My daughter is on Italia Conti foundation right now

It’s high contact hours and they seem to cover everything pretty thoroughly

They each get an individual singing lesson each week and maybe she struck lucky but my daughter loves her teacher

Downside is Saturday classes this year so no free weekends. They do mon - Thursday and then a Saturday

Also there are over 100 on the course and they split into groups of 20+ for classes so it can feel a bit like a conveyor belt.

She would recommend it tho.
Hi, thanks for the info. We had heard about the Saturday classes - any idea of why they don’t do anything Friday but have classes on Saturday? I must admit this is a downside for my DD but not sure how much of a dealbreaker it will be. How does your daughter cope with it, does it bother her? Also, what is the progression like? Does she feel like she has improved?
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Hilltop wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:32 pm My DD has been offered MT Foundations at Italia Conti and Bird, and we just wondered what other people’s experiences or knowledge of these two colleges were. IC is funded whereas Bird is not so this is a consideration. She very much wants to get an all round triple threat training. She has some more auditions coming up but it’s looking like it may be a choice between these two foundation courses unless some wildcards come up! She has got offers at D&B and Tiffany’s, but she would prefer to do the foundations as she doesnt feel she’s really received great training at her current 6th form college, so she’s happy to try again next year with a more of a solid base behind her. TIA
Hi Hilltop
It's such a hard process trying to support them to decide on the right route to take! Sounds like you Daughter has some great offers so she is clearly talented. What is it about the current PA 6th form she doesn't feel has been great? I suppose if there is a particular area she feels she hasn't been pushed in that would be a consideration to ask the Bird/Conti staff about how they think their foundation could support this?
Where else is she auditioning for, it might be that something else comes up as well 🤞🏻 crossed for her
We are waiting for outcomes of f2f auditions and one self tape I'm over the waiting 😂
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Hilltop wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:06 pm
Scotbean wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:15 pm Hi
My daughter is on Italia Conti foundation right now

It’s high contact hours and they seem to cover everything pretty thoroughly

They each get an individual singing lesson each week and maybe she struck lucky but my daughter loves her teacher

Downside is Saturday classes this year so no free weekends. They do mon - Thursday and then a Saturday

Also there are over 100 on the course and they split into groups of 20+ for classes so it can feel a bit like a conveyor belt.

She would recommend it tho.
Hi, thanks for the info. We had heard about the Saturday classes - any idea of why they don’t do anything Friday but have classes on Saturday? I must admit this is a downside for my DD but not sure how much of a dealbreaker it will be. How does your daughter cope with it, does it bother her? Also, what is the progression like? Does she feel like she has improved?
I think it’s a timetabling / staffing / studio space issue. They have different tutors coming in on Saturdays eg that’s when they do tap and some other stand alone classes.
It doesn’t bother my daughter too much. She works on a Friday and Sunday most weeks and was able to fit around the course which is good
We live 500 miles away so she can’t come home for a weekend that’s the worst thing. But tbh I think she might have spent too much time and money coming home for weekends had that option been open to her. So in a way it’s forced her to just stay down there get a job and get on with it!
Progression wise she definitely feels she has improved - you get out what you put in I suppose and the course she did before this wasn’t nearly as intensive. So for us it’s been worthwhile. Even if she doesn’t get any degree offers she feels she has learned a lot
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Hilltop wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:06 pm
Scotbean wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:15 pm Hi
My daughter is on Italia Conti foundation right now

It’s high contact hours and they seem to cover everything pretty thoroughly

They each get an individual singing lesson each week and maybe she struck lucky but my daughter loves her teacher

Downside is Saturday classes this year so no free weekends. They do mon - Thursday and then a Saturday

Also there are over 100 on the course and they split into groups of 20+ for classes so it can feel a bit like a conveyor belt.

She would recommend it tho.
Hi, thanks for the info. We had heard about the Saturday classes - any idea of why they don’t do anything Friday but have classes on Saturday? I must admit this is a downside for my DD but not sure how much of a dealbreaker it will be. How does your daughter cope with it, does it bother her? Also, what is the progression like? Does she feel like she has improved?
Mine now on degree at drama school (not IC) had a Sat AM class last term. This was in addition to their Mon-Fri classes which can be from 9am-6/8pm depending on what they're doing with homework on top (private foundation had less homework, funded more because it's a qualification they are getting - so that's also something to ask/consider). The Sat class irritated me no end because I felt it took away the students ability to find a temp w/end xmas job. There's no space during the week to have one unless you work in something like a bar that has later opening hours. The reason for the class wasn't given but I'm sure it was like the prev answer and due to availability of staff and space. We are 3.5 hours away from DD, so coming home on a w/end isn't an option to her either
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How are things going for everyone? It's such a stressful process and the waiting to hear back from places is hard work 🤣
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Cam12345 wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:46 pm How are things going for everyone? It's such a stressful process and the waiting to hear back from places is hard work 🤣
Hi Cam12345
It is a daily dread isn’t it 😅🥹
I’m trying to find a thread for this year but doesn’t seem there is much of one?
Have you applied for MT/ Dance?
I don’t see any posts for dance at all xx
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Does anyone know the offer Vs place numbers for the ‘top’ or most prevalent schools mentioned here - applying for Diploma/BA in 2024?
I can’t seem to find figures regarding how many offers are made in this or previous years.
I hear Performers, Wilkes , Bird , (Urdang?) may have higher intake but also more apply meaning it’s not necessarily any easier to gain a place of course!
But is it the likes of Laine, Italia Conti, Arts Ed etc that limit numbers or have year sizes of around 30..
just figures I’m wondering about - both in terms of offers sent and places available.
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If anyone wants a bit of parent insight re GSA please just DM me. Very happy 2nd year son on MT degree.
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Que Sera wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2024 1:33 pm
Cam12345 wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:46 pm How are things going for everyone? It's such a stressful process and the waiting to hear back from places is hard work 🤣
Hi Cam12345
It is a daily dread isn’t it 😅🥹
I’m trying to find a thread for this year but doesn’t seem there is much of one?
Have you applied for MT/ Dance?
I don’t see any posts for dance at all xx

It really is 🤣 DD has applied for MT to 7 degree courses (3 self tape 1st rounds) heard back from 4 and still waiting to hear from 3 - lots of waiting around wondering
How about yours Qué Sera?
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Cam12345 wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:46 pm How are things going for everyone? It's such a stressful process and the waiting to hear back from places is hard work 🤣
I’m not coping at all well! DD rejected her deferred place on a degree course for MT to reapply this year, so far she didn’t get a recall for Arts foundation, still waiting to hear from IC self tape, hasn’t sent in her Mountview self tape, it’s due tomorrow!

She had an audition for GSA (dream place) last week, she thought it went well, but someone there at the same time has been offered Foundation and she’s heard nothing!

Still got a couple in the pipeline, but it’s such a worry. She’s been really productive during her gap year, gaining lots of performing experience in one way or another, but I’m not ready for another gap year! Im somewhere between what will be will be and panic! Goodness knows how she’s feeling, she seems really chilled!
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K8t wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:03 pm
Cam12345 wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:46 pm How are things going for everyone? It's such a stressful process and the waiting to hear back from places is hard work 🤣
I’m not coping at all well! DD rejected her deferred place on a degree course for MT to reapply this year, so far she didn’t get a recall for Arts foundation, still waiting to hear from IC self tape, hasn’t sent in her Mountview self tape, it’s due tomorrow!

She had an audition for GSA (dream place) last week, she thought it went well, but someone there at the same time has been offered Foundation and she’s heard nothing!

Still got a couple in the pipeline, but it’s such a worry. She’s been really productive during her gap year, gaining lots of performing experience in one way or another, but I’m not ready for another gap year! Im somewhere between what will be will be and panic! Goodness knows how she’s feeling, she seems really chilled!
Oh wow I don't blame you for not coping, it's all the uncertainty isn't it and no idea when you will hear about outcomes/decisions!!!

Where was her degree place, somewhere she didn't want to go?
Is it degree self tape she submitted for IC? my daughter heard .4 weeks after submitting her about a recall. Where else is she waiting for?

Brilliant she is chilled about it and I will keep everything crossed she gets some good news soon!
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Things are finally happening here, the next few weeks are going to be intense but hopefullY will condense the waiting!!! Super proud he’s got one in the bag already 😃

Performers (Birmingham) - offer on the day 🤩
Urdang - this Wednesday
Bird -7th March
GSA recall - 9th March

Phew!!!


He loved the day at performers, it’s not his top choice but he was pleasantly surprised
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K8t wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:03 pm
Cam12345 wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:46 pm How are things going for everyone? It's such a stressful process and the waiting to hear back from places is hard work 🤣
I’m not coping at all well! DD rejected her deferred place on a degree course for MT to reapply this year, so far she didn’t get a recall for Arts foundation, still waiting to hear from IC self tape, hasn’t sent in her Mountview self tape, it’s due tomorrow!

She had an audition for GSA (dream place) last week, she thought it went well, but someone there at the same time has been offered Foundation and she’s heard nothing!

Still got a couple in the pipeline, but it’s such a worry. She’s been really productive during her gap year, gaining lots of performing experience in one way or another, but I’m not ready for another gap year! Im somewhere between what will be will be and panic! Goodness knows how she’s feeling, she seems really chilled!
It’s such a stressful time. Did she get her Mountview tapes in ok? This is my daughter’s third year applying so I know what you’re feeling. She’s also worked so hard on all her skills but there still a massive dose of luck and timing involved to get recalls. Actually my daughter has moved away from MT to straight acting and has had more recalls this time, no final offer as of yet and she’s absolutely not going to go for it again, so this is it!
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K8t wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:03 pm
Cam12345 wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:46 pm How are things going for everyone? It's such a stressful process and the waiting to hear back from places is hard work 🤣
I’m not coping at all well! DD rejected her deferred place on a degree course for MT to reapply this year, so far she didn’t get a recall for Arts foundation, still waiting to hear from IC self tape, hasn’t sent in her Mountview self tape, it’s due tomorrow!

She had an audition for GSA (dream place) last week, she thought it went well, but someone there at the same time has been offered Foundation and she’s heard nothing!

Still got a couple in the pipeline, but it’s such a worry. She’s been really productive during her gap year, gaining lots of performing experience in one way or another, but I’m not ready for another gap year! Im somewhere between what will be will be and panic! Goodness knows how she’s feeling, she seems really chilled!

Did you hear back @K8t from GSA foundation or Mountview?
Any news for anyone, we are in a lull this week as waiting for Mountview outcome from January (not due outcomes until March 18th), Italia Conti recall not until end of April and Royal Scots still awaiting outcome of self tapes ( 6 weeks not that I'm counting...🤣)

Hope everyone has had a positive week!
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